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#623306 Jul 10, 2008 at 01:38 PM · Edited 14 years ago
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Hi Mates,

I prefer do a topic about our reason, because not all members are online actually.

First, i wanna thank everyone to accepted us so kindly in guild and in raids, i was really glad to join a such great & serious guild.

The main problem about the guild, its because my wife feel too much stressfull in a such uber guild. She feeling too much nervous in raids and its difficult for her to keep cool <:(
For me, it was really perfect, i love feeling stressful, and nervous, that boost me to be better, for this fact i would prefer stay in guild, but without my wife i cannot unfortunatly... :*(

I hope you can understand our choice :*(
Please accept all our apologizes.
Yesterday, my wife got a mace from ZA run, if we can pay back for it by anyway, be sure we will do it.

Im really sorry, to loosing your time on our apply.
I hope the guild will continue like that and will become the best one on Nordrassil.
Last Legion will really miss me.... i wanted continue with you & be useful for the guild :*(

See you soon.... >_<
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#623308 Jul 10, 2008 at 01:39 PM
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Wauw. that was fast.
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#623314 Jul 10, 2008 at 01:43 PM
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I understand your reasons Aikonn , you both were 2 good players and we`ll miss you!

Grand Mage Clikz
<master arcane blaster>

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#623318 Jul 10, 2008 at 01:46 PM
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280 Posts
What Clikz said...

And about the mace... u were part of the guild so no worries :)

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#623353 Jul 10, 2008 at 02:01 PM · Edited 14 years ago
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Aww, thats a real shame - Last nights run was a bear run and for that we needed to push hard as is the nature of the event, to reach 4 kills by a time limit.

I think you have had an unrealistic view of what raids are like.

If you had attended standard raids you would have observed the mood being much more relaxed and light hearted.

However there will be times when things get hard and everybody needs to act and do their job but this is what end game raiding is about.

Have a chat with 1 of the officers and perhaps they can change you minds or come up with an alternative.

If not was great chatting to you Aikonn and i have to say your healing output was fabulous - i was hoping we had found our missing link in healing *:|

All the best to you both and i hope you find the right guild for yourselves, and Gz on the mace, glad it was put to good use rather than the DE pile as usual :D
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#623359 Jul 10, 2008 at 02:04 PM
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sad to see you guys leaving ..i wish you best of luck !

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#623361 Jul 10, 2008 at 02:05 PM · Edited 14 years ago
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I had a feeling this might happen as a result of the timed run.

I hope the guild members on the run made you feel welcome and took the time to explain before the run what you were going to do.

However, there are other encounters on 25 man raids that require a similar amount of focus, although not for 1 hour per the ZA timed run.

A shame. I liked you both. If you want to chat about this tonight when I'm on that would be good.

I would like to know how the ZA run compared to Kara on Monday/Tuesday for example and your thoughts on that.


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#623467 Jul 10, 2008 at 02:53 PM
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The ZA run, was really great in my opinion.
Like i told it, i felt stressful, obliged go in hurry, & be max focused ^^
I REALLY loved that =))
In a normal guild, i never felt that, it for this fact i left them for LL^^

I play for new challenge, and go over my limit^^
IRL, im policeman, its for the same fact i love my job, i love feeling stressful, on nerve, and be the best able i can be. In game, im same, i looking for the same feelings^^
In LL, i really felt great.

LL is a perfect guild for me, in my opinion, its all types of game i looking for : Serious, Mature, Focused, & Looking for challenge.

But unfortunatly, its too much for my wife >_<
She prefer feel cool, and going slow, she dislike feel nervous & stressful.

Me & my wife have 2 differents gameplay style lol^^
I would really prefer stay in LL, but unfortunatly i cannot left my wife playing alone, its since 10+ years, we playing always like a duo, i cannot abandon her ;_;

Im so deeply sorry mates ... >_<
And i REALLY thank a lot of everyone~~~~!!! ^^
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#623472 Jul 10, 2008 at 02:55 PM
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Maybe an option of Cocolulu being a casual member, and you raiding might work? I dont know, not even sure if we do that, just a thought :P

That way you could play together and be in same guild, and Aikonn can come to raid 3 nights a week :)

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If you think you are beaten, you are,
If you think you dare not, you don't.
If you like to win, but you think you can't,
It is almost certain you won't.
If you think you'll lose, you're lost,
For out in the world we find,
Success begins with a fellow's will.
It's all in the state of mind.
If you think you are outclassed, you are,
You've got to think high to rise,
You've got to be sure of yourself before
You can ever win a prize.
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To the stronger or faster man.
But sooner or latet the man who wins,
Is the man who thinks he can.
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#623474 Jul 10, 2008 at 02:55 PM
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I do hope you folks reconsider - you only had chance to see probably the harshest of raiding environments we offer.

And though others have said, raiding will sometimes bring tough situations (like Archimonde), where high performance is needed, it really isn't as bad as it looks.

As stressful as it may seem, everybody makes mistakes; and we're not the type of guild to punish poor performance in this way, irrespective of how far we progress or how stressful things get.

We always have been, and always will be a casual, relaxed guild - and whilst we do get serious when raiding sometimes, we take every measure to ensure that everybody is comfortable in the environment.

I hope you give it another chance, but if not, then best of luck for the future :)
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#623773 Jul 10, 2008 at 04:32 PM
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We do do casual players ^^ look at mac (and now me)

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#623958 Jul 10, 2008 at 05:23 PM
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It's very sad to see you two leave. But I think you may have got the wrong impression by joining a very intense encounter that is new to you, but well known to most other raiders.

It is true we tend to take challenging new raid content very serious. It's the only way to be successful at it without wasting too much time. What we lack in raid quantity, we have to make up in raid quality.

Usually though, most people make mistakes and all learn over time. When the content you're tackling is new for everyone, you'd relax a little as most people would be making mistakes. Also, encounters that seem difficult and stressful at first, become second nature over time. Thus, not every raid is as stressful as a ZA timed run.

Finally, it's worth remembering that appearances may deceive. We may look like an a very serious guild. But we do accept Welsh people, dwarfs and Ironthorus. So clearly, our standards are pretty low :P
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#624189 Jul 10, 2008 at 06:28 PM
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A timed ZA run is the most stressful experience WoW currently provides. It is unlike normal raiding, because it requires you to provide your best output for 45 minutes without a single interruption. All other raiding is much more relaxed, because the fights are only 5 to 10 minutes (very rarely 20+), so even if you take every attempt fully serious, it is only for a short while before you can recover again. And it allows for a lot more coaching on new content than is possible with this intense environment.
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#624467 Jul 10, 2008 at 07:40 PM
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personally i would also like it if you and your wife would give LL another chance. There are casual members here. There's me and ........ me and sithen :D
But you cant make a decision on the guild in such short time and should ask your wife to give us a little time to see what we are about.
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